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Professor
Michael Majerus talks to Rachel McLeod
Published short version
I
chose to interview Mike Majerus because he is the President of the AES and he
also does lots of work on butterflies and ladybirds.
The current experiment he is doing on ladybirds is collecting lots of
pupae and then letting them hatch and keeping a total of how many harlequins
hatch and how many 2-spots hatch. Harlequin
ladybirds are foreign, they were introduced into other countries to try to
control aphid numbers and have somehow travelled to
England
. They are doing extremely well,
much better than the native species. To
find out more about the harlequin ladybird invasion you can look at the website http://www.harlequin-survey.org.
The
main reason the pupae don’t hatch is the scuttle fly that specialises in
laying its eggs in the pupae of ladybirds. They
have discovered that the flies don’t like harlequin ladybirds, but they are
gradually starting to use them more. The
scuttle fly will always choose the bigger pupae, but not if it is a harlequin,
even though they are bigger than the 2-spot ladybirds and most other ladybird
species. Over a period of 5 years
there has been a change between no harlequin being attacked by scuttle flies to
3 in every 50. Mike is trying to
find out a reason why the scuttle flies don’t tend to lay their eggs inside
harlequin chrysalises.
Harlequin
ladybirds over-wintering
He
is President, I think, mainly because he is an experienced entomologist who
knows what he is talking about, and a good communicator.
He is also a professor at the
University
of
Cambridge
.
Rachel and Mike in front of some butterfly cages housing Heliconius
butterflies
What insects do you keep?
We have an awful lot of ladybirds; so we
breed greenfly, specifically because that’s what the ladybirds feed on, and we
also have some butterflies and moths. The moths tend to be British, and we work
on what’s called melanism, these are the moths that turned black or darker
after the Industrial Revolution, as a consequence of pollution. They’re now
going back the other way. So most of the moths are British, but the butterflies
are mainly from the tropics, either from East Africa – we work on a genus of
butterflies called the Acraeas, and then we also have butterflies here from Central and
South America
– these are mimetic butterflies and the genus is called Heliconius.
Some
of the ladybirds harvested in mike's office, with aphids in the fore-ground
If you were to keep only one
insect, which would it be and why?
The thing I would choose would be the
Indian Moon Moth, and there’s a reason for this: when I was a kid, I used to
go along to the AES exhibition, to buy the caterpillars of the Indian Moon Moth
when they were very small, and they’re little sort of bumpy red caterpillars
when they’re very small, they turn bright green later, and they feed on
rhododendron, so they were quite easy to breed and the nice thing was, because
rhododendron is an evergreen, you could breed them throughout the year, and if
you bought them at the beginning of October they would hatch just before
Christmas, and then these beautiful, pale green, big-tailed moths, I used to put
them on our Christmas decorations, alive, every year. And it was great. As long
as you left the light on in the room, they wouldn’t fly. I would hate it if
you made me have only one insect, but if it had to be, I think I would go for
the Indian Moon Moth.
Indian
moon moth
What is your favourite place to
go field collecting?
Oh, that depends what sort of mood I’m
in. If I’m in a ladybird mood, I think it would be Chobham Common in
Surrey
, which has got lots and lots of great ladybirds. We’ve found three quarters
of the British ladybirds on just that one site, which is pretty amazing. But if
I was in a butterfly mood, it would have to be South America, somewhere on the
eastern side of the Andes in
Ecuador
. It’s staggering – you can walk down into a montane rainforest there and
you just never want to leave. You just see new things, amazing things, you go
from the big Morpho butterflies, these bright iridescent blue butterflies to
tiny, tiny little skippers flitting around, and then the little blue lycaenids
feeding in little clusters on minerals coming out of the seepage coming out of
the rock, that sort of thing. And it’s just the most fabulous place in the
entire world, as far as I’m concerned.
What’s the most exciting
thing you’ve done?
There is
nothing more exciting than flying off somewhere to the tropics and the first day
you walk into a tropical jungle that you’ve not been to before. I can feel my
heart beating as I go off, I’ve got my net and I’ve got my stick, and what
am I going to find?. I love it!
What do you think is the best
way to get people involved in entomology?
Talk to them, show them things, tell them
how fabulous these things are, how important they are. Some of them are pests,
but, you know, if you took away the bees, we wouldn’t have any flowers, or, we
wouldn’t have any pretty flowers. Very few. There are a few that are
bat-pollinated or bird-pollinated, but bees are so important in pollinating
stuff, and we wouldn’t have fruit. There’s so many things we wouldn’t have
– if you took the insects away, we would lose most of our birds. Some birds
feed on seeds, but the majority of birds feed on invertebrates. You know, if you
just think about your garden, the blue tits, the great tits, the robins, the
wrens and so on – these are eating insects. That’s what they feed their
young, that’s what they need themselves.
Most
people think that moths are nasty because they eat clothes, explain to them that
of the over 2,000 species of moth in this country, you can count the number that
are likely to eat your clothes, and it’s actually the caterpillars that do
that, on the fingers of one hand. So the moths that they see coming to the
lights in the bedroom and so on, these are not clothes moths. These are just
good moths and they should leave them alone, not kill them, put them out of the
window if they don’t particularly like them, but explain things to people
properly. The science for most things is not that hard, and if people really
understand about insects, then okay, there’s one or two that you would rather
do without. The vast majority of insects do no damage and they are an incredibly
important part of our natural ecosystems, and without them we’d be really
stymied. We’d be in a real mess.
Are you scared of any
arthropods?
There are one or two I don’t like in my
home, and there are one or two that I will go quite a long way to try and avoid,
that is, take precautions. So if I’m walking through the jungle in South East
Asia or Northern Australia I will have quite thick jeans on, with my socks up
over the jeans, and I will wear elasticated shirt cuffs and so on, and make sure
everything fits tightly around with a belt, and the reason I do that is I
don’t like getting bitten by leeches too much. There’s nothing wrong with
it, they don’t hurt. It leaves you bleeding for a long time, because they
actually put in a chemical that stops your blood clotting, and so on, so you get
very bloody socks if one gets in. Leeches don’t carry disease, so they’re
actually not too bad. Some ticks and some mites do, so those I’m also very
keen to avoid. And there are typical things, I don’t particularly like
horseflies, because I react quite badly when horseflies bite me, but I’m
certainly not scared of them.
What’s the most embarrassing
thing that’s happened to you?
So. This was in
Panama
. It could have been incredibly embarrassing. Fortunately I was entirely on my
own. There was a particular plant that some of my Heliconius butterflies feed on – they come to take the nectar. And
I wanted a photograph of this, and I was on the Dividing Range that goes from
the Rockies all the way down to the
Andes
. I was on a path there and I found this absolutely perfect flower that was just
at the right stage for a photograph. So I got my camera out of my rucksack, set
up, and I was just about ready to take the picture when I felt a bite on my leg,
a little bit below the knee, and then another one. And so I looked down, and
very stupidly I was standing on a trail of army ants, which had been going
straight up my boot, and then up my trouser leg, and they were biting. And they
bite pretty hard, this particular one. And I reckon it was about 30 seconds
before I’d stepped just one metre to the side, because then you’re off the
trail, and to when I had no clothes on at all. At which point I could shake all
my clothes, you know, first get the ants off me, and then shake all my clothes
and get dressed again. I kind of felt, ‘Oh God, this is a bit crazy’. And
ever since then, whenever I’ve set up to take a picture I always just check
what I’m treading on. I got about 100 bites, so it was quite a painful lesson
to learn.
What
do you think would happen to insect populations if we suddenly disappeared off
the Earth?
I think there will be a huge change, but
gradually – it may take a hundred, 200, 300 years – things will stabilise
down and we’ll get into a more balanced ecosystem than the one we’re in at
the moment, which is very rapidly changing because of what we’re doing. So
take us away and eventually things will settle down again.
Why is entomology important to
you?
Because I think it should be important to
everyone. We face incredible problems with the world, whether you’re talking
about global warming or pollution or loss of biodiversity, or there just being
too many people. All these things will have an impact on insects, and because
insects are such an integral part of ecosystems, eventually it will come back
and have an impact on us. Let’s take one example, mosquitoes. We need to
understand mosquitoes because they vector, they carry, lots of diseases and
particularly, the famous one of course is malaria. We don’t have malaria now
in this country. But if temperatures increase through global warming, we are
likely to get malaria back in this country, because we will get the mosquitoes
that carry it, back in this country. We need to understand the role of insects
in ecosystems as a whole if we’re going to make sensible decisions about our
future and the future of this planet.
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